Update

[zj95maxx]

newly routed exhaust that doesnt get in the way of Longarms
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/alongarm026.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/alongarm027.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/alongarm028.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/alongarm029.jpg

Tip was cut an angled for bling
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch005.jpg

T&T 1ton over theknuckle
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/alongarm023.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch003.jpg

Mallcrawlin flex
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj.jpg

herculined the rear area
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch002.jpg

Still trying to get my rear side door open..it is IMPOSSIBLE..It just wont open now matter how hard i kick. Even unbolted hinges and tried opening from other side, wont come.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch001.jpg

[zj95maxx]

playing around
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h120/backlash122/0624071552.jpg

Got an efan as well, not installed yet
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/arandom.jpg

cut fenders more
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch004.jpg

[zj95maxx]

is that a taurus fan??

indeed

from a 1990

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tireflex.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random005.jpg
Got rear and front shocks in, rear diff cover on, rear locker installed.

Got front and rear tom woods in
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch007.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random002.jpg

Front shaft was a little too close for comfort.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random009.jpg

I shall keep this updated as I can if anyone cares about zj's

finally get to "test" the suspension and lockers and wahtnot at campjeep on teh "advance trails"

[Benz0]

You are under 18 and should not be driving anything at Camp Jeep. Your "rules don't apply to me" mentality could really ruin it for others.

under 18 you can't drive at Camp Jeep???? Even with a parental consent form??

That is dumb...

[scottsxj]

the jeep is looking good man, cant wait to see some pics from camp jeep.

[TJRobbie00]

i do believe you have worked wonders on that thing it looks great its built great and im sure it wheels great good luck with the hole camp jeep thing i hope every things works out

[4x4Marine]

Max,

You have done a great job and should be proud of the jeep and yourself for it. Stay safe at camp jeep. That thing looks great. I'll catch up to you some time. HA!

:usa:

[zj95maxx]

Stupid Xterras
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tireflex003.jpg

[Benz0]

Stupid Xterras
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tireflex003.jpg

way too much posing...not enough wheeling...you know the rest


we all know your chit is ready for a trail - let's see it :flipoff:

[zj95maxx]

All in good time:roxyuzi:
1 day!

Then I will prob hit up crozet before the sept. bigdogssssssssssss:hellyeah:

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools-1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools.jpg


:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:

[Benz0]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools-1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools.jpg


:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:

save up for a hydro arm unless you have someone to crank out some bends :flipoff:

you get the gas option for that MIG?

[zj95maxx]

save up for a hydro arm unless you have someone to crank out some bends :flipoff:

you get the gas option for that MIG?

iv bent tube many times..I can handle bending it myself..gotta save dough for other stuff

yea the handler has a gas option and flux


35" allterrains are being bought this week.

[Benz0]

iv bent tube many times..I can handle bending it myself..gotta save dough for other stuff

yea the handler has a gas option and flux


35" allterrains are being bought this week.

nice....I am working on getting quotes from different garage/shop builders at the house so I can move my tools here and have more time to actually fabricate something on the weekend :rolleyes: I HATE going to the mechanicsville shop because I always get sidetracked with other crap and ALWAYS too fawking hot in that oven/quonset hut :mad:

[zj95maxx]

Yeah it will be nice to be able to do it all at home(all the tools are bought by me and a friend, but at his house because he has a garage) in a garage.


Only downfall..bendtech pro will have to be installed at MY house..because he only has Apples at his house..boo


oh yeah, bend tech pro and a die set was ordered today

[zj95maxx]

35" a/ts
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random003-1.jpg
ice bling bling wheels
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random-1.jpg

[BacklashXJ]

self-props for finding them. :woot:

i wanna see how they look cuz i'm getting them to. (again)

[xtrm4x4]

ive got those exact same rims in 6 lug, i love the way the look, too bad i got nothing to put them on

[Benz0]

ya'll need to use the ATTACHMENT or Image Hosting for that shit! :mad:


at the office the damn websense filter keeps me from seeing that shit! :(

[zj95maxx]

ya'll need to use the ATTACHMENT or Image Hosting for that shit! :mad:


at the office the damn websense filter keeps me from seeing that shit! :(

dont I need to be a supporting member to do that?

[Benz0]

dont I need to be a supporting member to do that?

yes...

[WildTurkeycj8]

ya'll need to use the ATTACHMENT or Image Hosting for that shit! :mad:


at the office the damn websense filter keeps me from seeing that shit! :(

Make sure you put on some shades before looking at those wheels!:cool:

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03250.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03249.jpg

Bling Bling

These dont stick out as far as the claws since these are 8 inch rims..but It is nice to not have to worry about the claws tread anymore.and this time, when I go wheeling and mount them up at campsites..they are going on backwardsssssssss

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random004-1.jpg
woo hoo

[Benz0]

not a fan of those wheels as they rust like no ones business....but I now need to have my retinas check :flipoff:

[zj95maxx]

It rained the other night and the money tree has again flourished.

ordered two of these bad boys today
http://www.corbeau.com/products/baja/2_02.jpg


one of my a/ts keeps losing air..goes from 32 to 12 in about 2 days..dont see any holes..could be a bad mounting job, we shall see..

[Kelleybean]

one of my a/ts keeps losing air..goes from 32 to 12 in about 2 days..dont see any holes..could be a bad mounting job, we shall see..

I had the problem with mine. Try taking it to a shop and having them do a flat repair. They change the valve stem and clean the rim up, sometimes junk gets caught in the bead and it will leak. Should cost you about $10

[zj95maxx]

I had the problem with mine. Try taking it to a shop and having them do a flat repair. They change the valve stem and clean the rim up, sometimes junk gets caught in the bead and it will leak. Should cost you about $10

even if they just mounted them last week?

[Kelleybean]

even if they just mounted them last week?

Sure, bad valve stems happen. You could try to tighten them yourself. Another possibility is that piece of junk could have gotten in the bead when it was mounted.

[zj95maxx]

rear coils keep coming unseated and they are bowing like no other..ballistic fab upper coil mounts with coil traps will be installed hopefully before bigdogs so my spring can be straight again and then it will be retained at the top and bottom..still might get limiting straps too.



And if anyone wants to know..we figured out the grinding noise I was hearing..for a first attempt to fix it, we changed t-case chain
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random008-1.jpg
then that wasn't it..we checked rear pinion angle..4 degrees..:banghead:

changed to 11..sound is gone...:rock:

[zj95maxx]

Seats came today but wasn't home, they will be here tomorrow. Thursday/Friday we will be installing seats with custom fabbed brackets, moving front axle forward and adjusting rear axle a tiny bit.

Ordered rear upper coil trap/mounts
http://ballisticfabrication.3dcartstores.com/assets/images/framecoilmount2.jpg

My spring is bowing and the post needs to be moved, and this way I wont need post extensions but will prob still get limiting straps, but at least my springs will not be popping out.

That should be all that we are doing before the 14th (bigdogs). Hopefully we will be able to trailer my shit up there.

[zj95maxx]

Some bling for my ass
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random009-1.jpg

[Benz0]

Some bling for my ass
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random009-1.jpg

I'll kick your ass in pool...:flipoff:

[zj95maxx]

Bring itttttttt:flipoff:

[TJRobbie00]

do i here pool tournament?

[BacklashXJ]

ffffuuuuuccccckkkkk yyyyyoooouuuu maxx :p

you're working on your shit more and more... and mine's just sitting.

chillin in the driveway.

fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

[zj95maxx]

Got seats in with teh huge brackets
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random013.jpg

soo nice


Didn't have big jackstands so we couldnt move front axle foward so we just went and played on a hill
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random012.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random011.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random010.jpg

Upper coilmount/traps come in Sat.(tomorrow) so NEXT weekend they will be installed..Basically Going to cut off old upper mounts, plate the bottom where the new mounts will be going, cut some plate to curve with the wheel well, weld them together, then mount the coiltraps..going to be ballin.

[jerry]

:drool:

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/random014.jpg

Bracket goodness..goes on tomorrow

[Benz0]

That's gonna look sweet at the mall! :flipoff:

[zj95maxx]

Day started out by trying to drill out the rear pinch welds..Didn't quite work and we only had a day so we decided to say no on the coil traps and just make some post extensions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/rock_crawler/Maxxs%20stuff/DSC03270.jpg

Then we realized, because the coil already bows that when the coil compresses, it hits the bottom of the said extension.
So..Whatever..30 min of work for nothing
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03272.jpg

Had the angle grinder out so I chopped stupid tin on the shock as well
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03273.jpg

Anyway, back to the topic on hand.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/rock_crawler/Maxxs%20stuff/DSC03276.jpg

Got bracket all welded up.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03277.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/rock_crawler/Maxxs%20stuff/DSC03278.jpg

Tacked in place with reinforced 1/4 plate running up the side and bottom.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/rock_crawler/Maxxs%20stuff/DSC03279.jpg

Annnnd done.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03280.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/rock_crawler/Maxxs%20stuff/DSC03281.jpg

No more coil poppage..unfortunately the bracket sticks out so when the tire flexes it hits on the inside..so wheel spacers will be ordered for the rear to stop that issue.

Any questions?

[Ace4wd]

http://sitemason.nashvillepost.com/files/ceE15C/burning_money_11.jpg/main.jpg

[Seth]

Why is smoky the bears head welded in upside down?

[Ace4wd]

:tgif:
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/143098~Smokey-the-Bear-Posters.jpg

But it is not smoky the bear, is it santa the clause or easter the rabbit?

Old Fire house joke....:bones:

[zj95maxx]

http://sitemason.nashvillepost.com/files/ceE15C/burning_money_11.jpg/main.jpg


I got money to burn bitchhh

[Benz0]

You get a lawsuit settlement or something? :flipoff:


nice work Maxx....:cheers:

[zj95maxx]

http://www.rokmen.com/spacerlg.jpg
Ordered

[MACK]

Wouldn't limiting straps accomplish the same thing with a lot less work???

[Ace4wd]

Wouldn't limiting straps accomplish the same thing with a lot less work???

:hellyeah:

[zj95maxx]

:hellyeah:


except for the fact that my spring was bowing like a bitch because the axle was pushed back, so the post needed to be moved never the less.

Captured top and bottom makes a more stable rig offroad as well.

[zj95maxx]

Front and rear spider trax 1.25 wheel spacers
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/Big%20Dogs/bigdogs010.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/Big%20Dogs/bigdogs020.jpg

House will be wired for the welder on tuesday.



won 450 dollar gift certificate to BDS suspension at bigdogs..too bad there is nothing I need...hmm..

[Benz0]

so how did those gay ass claws do at the Dog's?

[zj95maxx]

Great.

I would buy these tires again.

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools004.jpg
3/4 spacer

since both swaybar mounts are cut off..no need for swaybar
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools005.jpg

organized most of the tools, still gotta move the bender and drill and vice from my friends house to here..and get gas and cart for the welder.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools003.jpg

of course, had to fancy up the welder
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools002.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools001.jpg

[Seth]

No need for a sway bar with that much lift and coils? I think you might want to reconsider that. There's not a single thing keeping that heavy ass body in check with the axles and virtually all side hilling and off camber situations are going to be unpleasant.

[STUK SUX]

sssshh remember you can't tell teens anything......they figure it out on there own:drama:

[zj95maxx]

:shaking:

[Seth]

Sorry. I get confused from all the baby poo fumes...

[STUK SUX]

:shaking:

Just wait till you make a high speed swerve to miss something....you'll see....been there done that....won't do it again.

[Seth]

C'mon now, Scott. Don't you know that sway bars limit his mad flex?

[STUK SUX]

I know I know....the cop can really get a good look at it when it's turtle shelled in the median....i'm not pounding ya dude i think you do some good work....but don't do dumb shit like that.

[zj95maxx]

Ok first of all, the sway bar mounts needed to be moved because they interfered with my steering. Until they are somewhere else, they are gone

[Seth]

Some one sold you a steering kit that interferes with the sway bar and they DIDN'T provide a solution??? Might as well get a lawyer now... you're gonna own THAT company. Hope they got product liability insurance.

[zj95maxx]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/abitch003.jpg

hit on both mounts when fully turned..needed to be chopped off

[Seth]

Holy drag link angle! You bought a welder, move them onto the top of the end forgings. They're forged and no issue to weld to.

[BacklashXJ]

i'm still one rock crusher cover ahead of you :p

see ya in november!
(get good at welding)

[Ace4wd]

Look into a RE9992
"FRONT SWAY BAR MOUNT, PAIR
Our control arm brackets are laser cut from 3/16" cold rolled steel and then CNC formed for unmatched precision and strength."

$24.95

[mud_slinga]

This thread brings teh funneh without even trying to.

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools011.jpg
yanked up all the carpet..you would not believe how much wet moldy smelly crap was under that carpet..no wonder my jeep always smelt like crap.well its out now so its all good

and....




http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools012.jpg
Helllooooo mr. welder outlet

this weekend I will be getting a cart,gas,helmet,gloves,regulator, and welding extension cord.

Not exactly a huge mod..but got new headlamps..and MAN do they make Night driving so much easier .it def. brightened everything up and i like the new clear look, hated that yellow crap.

new one is on left
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools010.jpg

comparison
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools009.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/tools008.jpg

[scottsxj]

you could have just cleaned the lens for like 20 bucks and you would have had the same effect. Ohh well. looks good. How much was it to get that outlet wired up if you don't mind me asking.

[zj95maxx]

no..I tried that whole cleaning thing..wet sand/dry sand..i even tried the creams..it doesnt work on my plastic crap


45 bucks and they are CLEAR AS DAYY


oh and as for the wiring..youve got a pm

[Benz0]

you could have just cleaned the lens for like 20 bucks and you would have had the same effect. Ohh well. looks good. How much was it to get that outlet wired up if you don't mind me asking.

that crap don't work...I got a set off of ebay for $50 shipped and they were like night and day WORTH every $$then some retarded Texan bitch made a left in front of me and totaled it the next week :mad:

[scottsxj]

huh its in a silver package at advance, me and my friend used it on his crown vic (his lights are plastic as well) and it worked like a freaking charm, they looked brand new. I guess maybe it just depends on the vehicle then.

[4x4Marine]

I tried to clean mine, but that crap didn't work. Are those glass lamps? If send me pm on details of where and how much.

[zj95maxx]

no..its plastic..but they are just new and clear

45 bucks for 2 off ebay..just search 93 grand cherokee headlights

[zj95maxx]

durango
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/newparts.jpg

new tube door for a friend
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication030.jpg

making radiator support
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/broke.jpg

turdy chromos
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03468.jpg


88 kit is in the mail, along with an exhaust

[Benz0]

clean the damn thing...:flipoff:

[STUK SUX]

the steering box was not the problem when you were at bens it was the pump........the pump is what was making the grinding sound.

[Benz0]

the steering box was not the problem when you were at bens it was the pump........the pump is what was making the grinding sound.

still a great upgrade tho...~$100 more than a stock jeep box and more power for turning

[zj95maxx]

the steering box was not the problem when you were at bens it was the pump........the pump is what was making the grinding sound.


I know, I had always planned to upgrade my box though

[tjbliley]

I know, I had always planned to upgrade my box though

Mine feels like I am driving a tuned race car with the quick response. it is nice. You just have to make sure that you remember you swapped it when you are on the highway changing lanes.

[Ace4wd]

Mine feels like I am driving a tuned race car with the quick response. it is nice. You just have to make sure that you remember you swapped it when you are on the highway changing lanes.


Ok I've gota do it....... No Fockin Way dose your Jeep on 35's feel like your driving a tuned race car. :piss2: I sure it is better,,, but no way is it a tuned race car. :p

Thats all

[tjbliley]

Maybe you would understand if you drove it. It has no power and leans like a bitch. But when you go to steer it responds so quickly, relative to how any other Jeep I have driven responds, that the only frame of reference is a tuned race car. Feel free to come by the house and drive it.

[Ace4wd]

Feel free to come by the house and drive it.

http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/imagehosting/124724a4c819f75.jpg (http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=438)

Just F'in with ya

[o0Jash0o]

i like those safari doors you got, and yea the durango box will push 35s around like a kids toy, have it on my tj with 33s and its great.

anyways congrats on having the only zj i ever liked

[zj95maxx]

Well, before I put in the chromos, there was this bad grinding noise when i turned, making me think, bad U-joint. Found out it was sloppy pinion..tightening it didnt work so the night before I went wheeling, we pulled it all apart, removed a shim or two, tightened it down, fixed the problem, didnt have time to make winch mount but we decided to install new steering box..boy was that a PITA
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03470.jpg

Broke two tools trying to get the freaking pitman arm off.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03471.jpg

Side by side.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03472.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03473.jpg

Decided to take an upper off.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03474.jpg

after wheeling with 1 upper, it indeed DOES flex a ton more, but its almost too much and it makes stuff rub worse and makes me need limiting straps..So i might put it back on, who knows.

Went wheeling with a big group, had a great day, didnt think the trail was worthy of the claws so just cruised on the A/T's
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03475.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03476.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03477.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03479.jpg

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03480.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03481.jpg
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03485.jpg

Same pic almost..back in the day, this rock owning my rocker..
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/chewning37/DSC02463.jpg
Now, my rocker owns the rock
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03486.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03487.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03488.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03490.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03491.jpg

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03492.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03493.jpg

met these two hikers on the trail that have been hiking for 4 months..freaking ridiculous..we gave them cheese and soda, ha.
Had a great time, going to start on the winch mount next week, along with installing the new exhaust and super88 whenever that decides to come in.

[Seth]

You took the wrong upper off. The cast in upper is strong as hell. Its far less likely to break. The welded on factory one is a big piece of shit and is well known to part with the axle housing even when running two.

So.. .at a minimum hook the cast one back up. As for running just one? Fucking with fate, if you ask me.

[zj95maxx]

You took the wrong upper off. The cast in upper is strong as hell. Its far less likely to break. The welded on factory one is a big piece of shit and is well known to part with the axle housing even when running two.

So.. .at a minimum hook the cast one back up. As for running just one? Fucking with fate, if you ask me.

I could get you pages of people that do it on grands.


It will prob get back in after I get a new bushing, too much flex for my taste

but as for the saftey thing..its fine.

[Seth]

Actually, its not. I don't give a rats testicle if people do it. They fail. All you have to have is one 3/8" bolt fail and your front end is wadded up into a tree. Its worse on a radius arm suspension as you're relying on even less total support of the axle.

Bolts break, brackets tear, shit happens. A lot. We went through a period where TJs were tearing track bar mounts from the frame. Of course, according to the internet, that can't happen... until you're in the middle of the hammers and are staring at one.... again.

[hyperlite533]

Actually, its not. I don't give a rats testicle if people do it. They fail. All you have to have is one 3/8" bolt fail and your front end is wadded up into a tree. Its worse on a radius arm suspension as you're relying on even less total support of the axle.

Bolts break, brackets tear, shit happens. A lot. We went through a period where TJs were tearing track bar mounts from the frame. Of course, according to the internet, that can't happen... until you're in the middle of the hammers and are staring at one.... again.


agreed

[Seth]

Perfect example:
http://www.offroadmarketing.com/tbar.jpg

It'll never happen...

[zj95maxx]

Get your panties out a bunch, did you not read that I am going to put it back on after I get a new bushing.:orly: :shaking:

[Seth]

'It will prob get back in after I get a new bushing'

That abbreviation still means probably, right?

[hyperlite533]

'It will prob get back in after I get a new bushing'

That abbreviation still means probably, right?


:popcorn:

[Seth]

Sweet. I love popcorn. Makes me want to go to the movies... speaking of which, saw 30 days of nights. Kind of evil, freaky stuff... I liked it!

[hyperlite533]

Sweet. I love popcorn. Makes me want to go to the movies... speaking of which, saw 30 days of nights. Kind of evil, freaky stuff... I liked it!


same kind of evil freaky shit that's gonna happen when that axle breaks loose on that ZJ?

[Seth]

Nah. This was the kind of evil freaky shit that you could smell coming. It had creepy music and everything.

That axle failure is the kind of evil freaky shit that smacks you in the face when you least expect it.

Ever seen a control arm bracket tear off an axle housing, Brock?`

[BacklashXJ]

hahaha, maxx, when will you stop being so stubborn...

:woowoo:

[o0Jash0o]

:lmao:

[hyperlite533]

Nah. This was the kind of evil freaky shit that you could smell coming. It had creepy music and everything.

That axle failure is the kind of evil freaky shit that smacks you in the face when you least expect it.

Ever seen a control arm bracket tear off an axle housing, Brock?`


actually yes, my front drivers side lower broke the welds at crozet, didn't notice till i got on the highway and the front end kept moving around, but thanks to a few on here for some extra hands, and a call to rubicon express for some brackets, and mike warner for welding them, no more problems.

[hyperlite533]

hahaha, maxx, when will you stop being so stubborn...

:woowoo:

He'll probably do the same thing that happened to me. on my old YJ i never ran the sway bar, everyone rode my ass about it, finally i was on a two lane road, dropped the right side tire off the edge of the pavement, the wheel dropped, the body rolled, next thing i know i flipped over 3 times into someone's front yard..... Everyone's invinceable till death is staring at you in the face

[o0Jash0o]

Nah. This was the kind of evil freaky shit that you could smell coming. It had creepy music and everything.

That axle failure is the kind of evil freaky shit that smacks you in the face when you least expect it.

Ever seen a control arm bracket tear off an axle housing, Brock?`



ditto my front pass tacoed 2 different ways befor sheering halfway off......also had the factory control arm to crush in there too.

bent up the same one again plowing a tree and now my caster is all funky

[Seth]

Huh. Who knew? ;)

I thought them brackets were indestructo? The mommy mobile wheelers can't break em! :p

[hyperlite533]

Huh. Who knew? ;)

I thought them brackets were indestructo? The mommy mobile wheelers can't break em! :p


come to think of it, i've seen atleast 4 or 5 rigs at crozet break them off

[Seth]

The TJ/XJ/ZJ front end uppers are under a shitton of load. Radius arm makes it a bunch worse. When the axle articulates the upper on the stuffed side wants to roll forward, while the upper on the down side wants to roll back.

That's part of the reason there's more flexibility out of one arm. There's no fighting from side to side. Full Traction did a kick ass TJ long arm lift that actually maintained the factory 5 link setup. Its actually quite limber. But the radius arm is EASY. If I ever link the feep, it'll probably get radius arms for that very reason. EASE.

[o0Jash0o]

:shaking: on a positive note

the zj looks good but i was wundering where are those wheelin pics were taken at....ide like to go there sometime or somewhere similar to get some wheelin time with the lift under my belt....all ive done is mud sence its been lifted cuz thats all that around me for miles and miles.


been wanting to do shoe creek sence its always open as far as i know and its not to much for a noob crawler such as myself. get the chance to learn some easy lines. been there once stock and thats the only time i tryed to hump some rocks with the jeep

[hyperlite533]

:shaking: [SIZE="7"] thats the only time i tryed to hump some rocks


WTF?
:greddy:

[o0Jash0o]

WTF?
:greddy:


well i took the tj there stock a few weeks after i pulled it off the lot and got the front end up on a rock half the size of my jeep and when i tryed to get the rest of it up there and it just kept bouncing all over the place it just looked like my jeep was humping a hippo....i used to have a short video of it on our last computer was kinda funny lookin

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/newparts0012.jpg

[o0Jash0o]

are those axle shafts i cant tell pics look so dark on my computer

[zj95maxx]

its a super 88 kit:hmmrun:

[atreyubluexj]

your friend is a douche bag for stealing jimmys zebra stripes idea from his rover.

[zj95maxx]

your friend is a douche bag for stealing jimmys zebra stripes idea from his rover.

right..because jimmy kelly is the first peson to have zebra stripes...

[Ace4wd]

http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/imagehosting/thum_1247269810a16ec.jpg (http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=440)

[rdnkfirefighter]

http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/imagehosting/thum_1247269810a16ec.jpg (http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=440)


HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

[BacklashXJ]

right..because jimmy kelly is the first peson to have zebra stripes...


they were ghey then, they are ghey now. :greddy:

[endo]

http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/imagehosting/thum_1247269810a16ec.jpg (http://www.eastcoast4wd.net/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=440)

THis guy did the stripes long before the whackmaster Ted.

I remember watching this guy on sat. mornings before cartoons came on as a little one.
http://www.wral.com/wral-tv/video/1416204/

Enjoy!!

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aero.jpg

[Kelleybean]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aero.jpg

Maxx are you swiping pills out of that pharmacy you work at and selling them on the streets? You have been dropping some serious cash lately!

[Ace4wd]

Maxx are you swiping pills out of that pharmacy you work at and selling them on the streets? You have been dropping some serious cash lately!

:borg:

[Big Ron]

I have matte and gloss black vinyl if you want zebra stripes. I even have some leopard left over...heck...I can even print a peacoak pattern if it floats your boat :rock:

I have done 4 zebra vehicles in richmond....I even sold Jimmy his vinyl......they are super easy to put down.

There has been only 1 good looking leopard vehicle...you can be # 2 for the right price.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u225/adamsclarke/leopard.jpg

[BacklashXJ]

Maxx are you swiping pills out of that pharmacy you work at and selling them on the streets? You have been dropping some serious cash lately!

all he does is work and buy jeep parts... no money spent anywhere else.

i would be too if i wasn't in college. haha.

[Ace4wd]

i would be too if i wasn't in college. haha.

I worked 40'hrs a week all the way through. GET A JOB!:rolleyes_

[o0Jash0o]

went partner in a buisness AND IM STILL BROKE



btw anyone have an underground heating oil tank that needs to be removed PM ME PLEASE

free through the state if it leaks! and i still get payed lol






ok ill stop the :diespam:

[hyperlite533]

i am under the impression you never ever make enough money to be satisfied. atleast i never am

[Evil Smurf]

all he does is work and buy jeep parts... no money spent anywhere else.

i would be too if i wasn't in college. haha.


Wouldn't you need a Job first? And Fry cook would not cut it.

:hmmrun:

[rdnkfirefighter]

Wouldn't you need a Job first? And Fry cook would not cut it.

:hmmrun:

:ohsnap: you got owned :chair:

[BacklashXJ]

:ohsnap: you got owned :chair:

uhm... ok?

I've got a group of guys that are starting a 4x4 LLC. up here... i think that's far from fry cook...

[Ace4wd]

uhm... ok?

I've got a group of guys that are starting a 4x4 LLC. up here... i think that's far from fry cook...

:lmao:

call any time you would like to talk about this.

[BacklashXJ]

:lmao:

call any time you would like to talk about this.

i don't really need any sarcasm, but if you are serious then i will if i need any help.

[Big Ron]

Here would be sarcasm......
I think richmond should form at least 30 jeep clubs.

Why you wanna start another??? Are the people here not good enough for ya?

[BacklashXJ]

Here would be sarcasm......
I think richmond should form at least 30 jeep clubs.

Why you wanna start another??? Are the people here not good enough for ya?

an LLC is not the same thing as a club.

also, i'm in morgantown, WV.

[Big Ron]

An LLC is a limited Liability...that I know. Any reason you're setting something up like this. Are you planning on making money off the club that would translate to your persoanl taxes? Just seems like the wrong avenue for something club related....maybe I'm not understanding what exactly you are doing...or what it has to do with zjmaxx's update page (my tangent) :shaking:
Richmond comment is redacted.....

[Ace4wd]

I know of 3 4x4 shops/LLC's in MorganHole. and lived there for 25yrs.

[zj95maxx]

Started my winch mount
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount2.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount3.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount4.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount5.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/winchmount6.jpg

ran out of gas I think..regulators busted and it was acting funny so I am just gunna get a refill tomorrow. Should finish the winch tomorrow..if not by then, then its sat. Got the bearings and whatnot pressed on the super 88 shafts..those will be going in this weekend as well.

[o0Jash0o]

uhm... ok?

I've got a group of guys that are starting a 4x4 LLC. up here... i think that's far from fry cook...




An LLC is a limited Liability...that I know. Any reason you're setting something up like this. Are you planning on making money off the club that would translate to your persoanl taxes? Just seems like the wrong avenue for something club related....maybe I'm not understanding what exactly you are doing...or what it has to do with zjmaxx's update page (my tangent) :shaking:
Richmond comment is redacted.....


i`d say hes trying to say he wants to start a 4x4 buisness not a club LLC has to do with owning a company like someone else stated "limited liability corporation" usually the route you would take if you plan on being the soul propriator (think i spelled that right?) or a partner ship of 2-3 poeple...after 3 its better to go corp. its set up so that you can only be sued for what the buisness is worth rather than taking from your own personal accounts and or property. unless you peirce the corp. veil which implies you have no longer treated the buisness as a seperate entity and have treated it as personal property then allowing you your self as an indevidual to be sued along with the company itself....using a company card to go grocery shoping would be grounds for a creditor to be able to include your personal assets as one with the company itself.


anyways shouldnt have anything to do with a club

pardon my horrible spelling and punctuation lol



moving on

the zj looks good man! lmao

[4x4Marine]

If you are an LLC you can have different % distributions with the profit. If your a corp you have to distribute per ownership %. You can be a LLC and still file taxes as an SCORP. This allows you to not have to pay med care and SS out of pocket at end of year. You still have to pay taxes on profit though. Just make sure you get an accountant.

Joe
:usa:

Sorry Max I will get off your thread now.

[BacklashXJ]

thank you jash, that's what i meant.

anyway....

maxx, lets see some beads. other than that looks good.

[zj95maxx]

thank you jash, that's what i meant.

anyway....

maxx, lets see some beads. other than that looks good.

your wish is my command

Worked some more on the winch
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication031.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication032.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication033.jpg

sticks out a little bit, but its high up, im not worried about it
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication034.jpg

what it will look like
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication035.jpg
could of bolted it up..but i still need to add reinforcement and i decided to plate the bumper so theres no gaps up top
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication036.jpg

Will finish tomorrow.

[STUK SUX]

just a suggestion...could be what you just said but you might wanna connect the sides of the fairlead upright to the bumper.

[BacklashXJ]

just a suggestion...could be what you just said but you might wanna connect the sides of the fairlead upright to the bumper.


i was just about to say that.

[Seth]

A welding tip... try and make the bead even and straight across the top and bottom. It also looks a little cold at the edges along the bottom, but undercut a little at the top. The torch is moving close to the work at the top and far at teh bottom

Even though a 'stack of dimes' is really a tig thing, the pattern and symmetry are important in even burn in.

[o0Jash0o]

like what you got goin here but was just noticing the amount of radiator you have exposed there....any plans for protecting that?

[zj95maxx]

as of now
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/broke.jpg

soon to be end result
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Kraqa/Rad%20x-mem/100_0973.jpg

Might make a piece going off bumper to that support..but i dunno yet

[o0Jash0o]

shweet that answered my question quik lol
where were those wheelin pics taken, the ones with the xterras i wanna go

[zj95maxx]

DONE

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication037.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication038.jpg

ghetto gussets
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication039.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication041.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication042.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fabrication043.jpg


sound clip
http://s203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/?action=view&current=fabrication044.flv

[4x4Marine]

Max, Is that sorta like a bucket?? It look like a shoe box shape. If it is you might want to drill some 1/2" holes in the bottom to let water drain out.

Looks Good!

Joe

[zj95maxx]

the back of the winch plate is flat, water can drain

[4x4Marine]

Cool, just couldn't see.

[zj95maxx]

Mr. Winch was craving more power
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/jeuh001.jpg

Super 8.8..what a PITA..bent a spacer ring..had to bend it back..but one side is complete, other side will be done tomorrow.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/jeuh002.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/jeuh003.jpg

The 8.8 kit is great cuz now with the spacer its WAY to wide for the back, so one set of spacers are up for sale if anyone wants them

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03536.jpg


oh no's. 37s on a 30:withstupi

[Seth]

Time to start thinking about unibody upgrades...

[BacklashXJ]

Time to start thinking about unibody upgrades...

like... taking all of his axles, suspention, and everything and moving them to a frame'd vehicle? hahaha.

*caugh* mom's TJ *caugh*

[Ace4wd]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03536.jpg


oh no's. 37s on a 30:withstupi

Looks like you had some fun with them... is that spooge drips around the bead? Did you give it the GOUK!

LOL

Got them on yet? Your gona LOVE them on the road....

[4x4Marine]

Max your Grand looked great with those new tires. You need to psot some pics. Keep it going man.

Joe

[zj95maxx]

Looks like you had some fun with them... is that spooge drips around the bead? Did you give it the GOUK!

LOL

Got them on yet? Your gona LOVE them on the road....


yeah, but they are wheeling tires, they have been on for the weekend and..yeah, steering wheel is jerky, but after tomorrow, the iroks will be locked up for a while till I wheel

next projects
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03551.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/yyyyyyy.jpg

starting my own "kevins offroad rad support"..sept for free ninety nine
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03546.jpg

[zj95maxx]

finished rad support
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa015.jpg

and tube fenders
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa018.jpg

[Seth]

You really should reattach that front upper before all this work is wadded up into a schoolbus.

[BacklashXJ]

You really should reattach that front upper before all this work is wadded up into a schoolbus.

especially with your nice new 37's.

[Kelleybean]

Looks good! I was infront of you at the light at Alverser & Huegenot today.

[zj95maxx]

You really should reattach that front upper before all this work is wadded up into a schoolbus.

it will go back on when I get the t&t customs truss with superflex joints..xmas time

[Seth]

Meanwhile, what's the plan for reinforcing the unibody and a cage?

[zj95maxx]

cage is coming

as for reinforcing..umm..longarms,front bumper that ties into radiator,which ties into tube fenders which ties into sliders, which ties into long arm brackets which ties into unibody stiffeners which ties into crossmember?

cage is all I can do basically.

Maybe make a bar going from UCA to UCA on the rear, but I dont see the point, my unibody is about as stiff as I can get it besides putting a cage of somesort in/on it.

[Seth]

You can start by boxing the unibody rails. The truck is going to start self destructing if you don't give it some reinforcement between the coil towers, shockmounts and put a proper internal cage with an X between the B-pillar.

You got a lot tied up in a marginal platform. The entire vehicle is held together by folded sheet metal that was designed to be a mommy mobile. If you spend the time to reinforce it now, you won't be chasing cracks down the rails later.

All of the unibody platforms love to crack.... the trick is getting ahead of them with reinforcement.

Seth (exo-cages aren't structural, btw... protect the occupants, not the sheet metal.)

[zj95maxx]

I have unibody stiffiners by clayton which are stronger than boxing the frame rails. Here is some proof for ya bud.

thanks elliot
1.) Clayton longarm kit

Anyone who wheels ZJ's has heard the name Clayton Offroad before. They make, in my opinion, the best longarm kit that available. However I think I will be modifying it a bit to tailor to future needs of the vehicle and for bling factor.

All ZJ's/XJ's/WJ's/KJ's are unibody, meaning the frame and body are in itself one piece. It is a cheaper way of mass producing vehicles which is all Daimler Chrysler cares about. Trying to design suspension around this can be very tricky but thanks the the popularity of the 4x4 sport almost every approach has been conceived and executed. Manipulating the unibody is inevitable when building one of the afformentioned rigs into a capable crawler. For all information on welding related to the unibody, please take a moment to read the Unibody Welding Bible. Thanks to a good friend of mine Kris Fraser for the comprehensive research on unibody strengths and how to modify them.


Option A: Sleeve the frame rail with chopped 4x4 3/16". Plug weld throughout. This is pretty easy to do with the correct tools. This is pictured below. Graphically shown: Green area being the ZJ frame and the orange part being new
http://fototime.com/2BF7446DC15EB1A/standard.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/Puma297/longarms/sleeve1.jpg
Option B: Weld a smaller size SUBFRAME onto bottom of existing unibody. This is what the Clayton kit uses. Links are not as easily mountable to this type of setup and you lose approx 1" of clearance at the frame. Also a pic is shown below.
http://www.mallcrawlin.com/productreviews/claytonlongarms/claytonla029.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/Puma297/longarms/sleeve2.jpg
The plate on the ends are used for the analasys. The force to the frame rail is applied to the 2" portion sticking off the right side. The frame rail is anchored and the opposing end from where the force is applied. The force is 1000LB. This is the deformed DIY Sleeve (option 1).
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/Puma297/longarms/sleeve3.jpg

And here is the subframe (option 2).

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a349/Puma297/longarms/sleeve4.jpg

If you look at the numbers to the right of the framerails you can see that the subframe actually moves less. This was surprising to me. These aren't exactly the same forces applied while wheeling but it gives you an idea of its strength. Tests on torsional rigidity would need to be run to get a more comprehensive analysis of its true strength. (Thanks to Kris for crunching the numbers on software I can't afford. )

so, I have that part already down. Frame rails are beefed up, also, these "unibody support frame stiffiners (subframe)" are welded to my sliders...which is welded to bumper..and so on..cage is next

try not and down talk me like I dont know anything about unibodys and stiffening them up as much as possible, I do my research. I do listen to your words and I do not turn them away, but again, I have done my research.

[Seth]

Your answer could have been 'the clayton kit addresses the rails'.

It doesn't address the control arm brackets on the axle, it doesn't address the shock mounts and it doesn't address the coil buckets. Those parts fail too. For every guy that posts on the internet that it works great, there's some other guy that tried it and found out the hard way whether it was great or not. I'm the guy that breaks stuff.

Like it or not, I have built up a lot of vehicles either professionally or with my buddies. The first ZJ I helped put 35s on was in 2000... and guess what, he ripped a coil bucket off and chased unibody cracks until he finally had to subframe it. I ran Moab in 1999 with a good friend who was running 35s on an XJ. At the time, there were FEW XJs on 35s and he ran into all sorts of coil bucket problems, control arm bracket issues and shock mount issues. Eventually that car was so trashed that the doors wouldn't open.

Instead of thinking I'm pissing on your parade, wonder if I've seen somebody already ruin a great ride doing the same thing.

[zj95maxx]

have you seen my rear coil buckets?


and i have posted pics of the subframe, and in my post before my graph post, i said, "ties into unibody stiffeners"

[4x4Marine]

Max, I think Seth is just letting you in on things he knows. If he thought you and the rig were crap then he would probaly not waste his time. Your ride is sweet and you have done a great job so take in the info that you can use and let the rest roll off. There is always things we can teach each other. Thats the great thing about being a part of jeepers. The info also helps the dumb shits like me that don't know anything about jeeps.

Later

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa024.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa025.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa026.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa027.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/aaaa028.jpg

didnt have enough daylight to finish the passenger, or even start on it.

[Big Ron]

Sweet..did he already paint over the zebra stripe I put on a few months ago :bigok:

[zj95maxx]

Sweet..did he already paint over the zebra stripe I put on a few months ago :bigok:


Maaco

[BacklashXJ]

so when did the damn thing turn black?

and why don't you bend the bottom of the fender towards the slider so that you don't have to make that little 2" piece of toob.

[Kelleybean]

so when did the damn thing turn black?

and why don't you bend the bottom of the fender towards the slider so that you don't have to make that little 2" piece of toob.

Thats an X-terra.

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab003.jpg

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab006.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab008.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab005.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab004.jpg

[zj95maxx]

jeuhh

[BacklashXJ]

Thats an X-terra.


nawww... i thought it was a hummer. :withstupi

it used to be silver, then white... then zebra...

[zj95maxx]

hydro pump and j20 steering box
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab012.jpg

[Seth]

Make 100% sure that your pump is moving enough fluid. I don't care what PSI its at, the volume has to be huge. I've been through 5 pumps since I went hydro assist (which was in 2002) and almost all of them have fried due to too much psi, not enough volume causing cavitation.

If the volume is too low, you'll also lose steering at idle. It'll turn, but you'll have zero assist. Take a blip of the gas to get her to turn.

good luck. hydro is a wicked PITA to get really right and reliable.

[zj95maxx]

going to be ordering an AGR super pump

[Seth]

Good God! don't do that. May as well burn the cash.

3 options. KRC (best IMO with largest flow valve), PSC (2nd best), Howe.

[zj95maxx]

whats wrong with agr?

what PSC box..think the xj one would work? cant find a zj one

[Seth]

Back in the day, they were fine. The current owner of PSC owned it (if memory serves). He sold it and they went on to making lousy pumps and boxes and offering horrible customer service. You MIGHT get lucky and get one that doesn't howl, but if you do, good luck in getting them to make it right.

PSC made a mistake with a box I had them rebuild and they OVERNIGHTED the part to me to make it right. KRC spent 2 hours on the phone with me talking me out of their aluminum pump and into their half as expensive iron pump because its what I needed. Both companies make top flight products and offer the customer service to match.

By way of comparison, a buddy ordered a box from AGR last year, got it and it was the wrong ratio. They refused to take it back, as it was now used, even though the mistake was irrefutably theirs.

[zj95maxx]

Back in the day, they were fine. The current owner of PSC owned it (if memory serves). He sold it and they went on to making lousy pumps and boxes and offering horrible customer service. You MIGHT get lucky and get one that doesn't howl, but if you do, good luck in getting them to make it right.

PSC made a mistake with a box I had them rebuild and they OVERNIGHTED the part to me to make it right. KRC spent 2 hours on the phone with me talking me out of their aluminum pump and into their half as expensive iron pump because its what I needed. Both companies make top flight products and offer the customer service to match.

By way of comparison, a buddy ordered a box from AGR last year, got it and it was the wrong ratio. They refused to take it back, as it was now used, even though the mistake was irrefutably theirs.

would an xj psc box fit muh zj? maybe ill call em..

[Seth]

Box or pump? Box should be the same. Pump, should be a TC, if memory serves...

[zj95maxx]

pump.. i have a box

[jbailey]

yea I would stay clear of AGR with the customer service stories I've heard. PSC would be my choice.

[Seth]

PSC 2nd choice. KRCpower.com. Best pump I've ever used. 100% new, not a rebuilt TC.

[MACK]

How about just adding a remote reservoir to the stock pump? Is there not enough pressure? I'm just asking because I don't know anything about setting up hydro steering.

[Seth]

Mike,
Since the power steering system is closed loop, its always moving the same fluid around the system, so a reservoir only helps with cooling and it does give you a more consistent line pressure (less weird pressure drops as the ram cycles). The trick to an assist steering setup is having enough volume through the pump at a high enough pressure that it can cycle the ram AND the steering box without cavitation or slow flow.

Think of it relative to a garden hose vs. a fire hose. Both can put out say 100 psi. If the fire hose is doing it, its moving a LOT more water. The same is true for the assist. A stock pump can do ok... and it WILL work, sort of. It just won't be 100% assist at 900rpm (which is the target for a manual trans while rock crawling). An auto is a little more forgiving as it cycles the idle up higher anyway.

[BacklashXJ]

It just won't be 100% assist at 900rpm (which is the target for a manual trans while rock crawling). An auto is a little more forgiving as it cycles the idle up higher anyway.

but just to clear something up, it's still a good idea to get a new pump even if the auto is more forgiving, right?

[Seth]

I've never seen a stock pump work an assist WELL. It'll work, but will be shitty at idle and will take a little gas to get it to turn. Meanwhile... assist on a Dana 30??? I chew up ball joints on the 44 outers like clockwork. My 60 front never cared, but I can't see putting it on the 30.

BTW... the ram MUST MUST MUST be mounted from axle to tie rod. If you mount it to the drag link it WILL tear the steering box from the frame OR destroy the sector shaft, OR a lovely combination of things. Only parallel with the tie rod is acceptable.

EDIT: don't let ANYONE give you shit about running a ram on road. It drives perfectly safely, with proper return to center. Since you have a drag link, it can't over steer or do anything wanky. Between the Feep and the TJ, I have over 60k miles on a hydro assist (45k on the TJ, 15 on the Feep)

[zj95maxx]

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v158/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1764830_4515.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v158/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1764824_2539.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v158/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1764812_8614.jpg

[zj95maxx]

:fire: ordered 160 feet of dom:drama:

[zj95maxx]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03766.jpg
moms xmas present

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab012.jpg
j20 box and H-assist

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab003.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab004.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/fab005.jpg

[zj95maxx]

prep for cage
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03769.jpg


JCRoffroad tie rod spacers to eliminate tie rod roll
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03771.jpg

[zj95maxx]

UPS man came

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/gay010.jpg

new track bar and bracket should be arriving tomorrow

[zj95maxx]

ill be here friday till 230 and all weekend..monday i work at 230 as well

go here if you want to see what I have done scince the beginning

http://mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10236


or if your a member, this has more stuff than the mallcrawling link
http://www.nagca.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27142

[zj95maxx]

woo!!
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/gay012.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/gay011.jpg

being installed bright and early tomorrow morning

[zj95maxx]

wheeling
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v169/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1954916_1953.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v169/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1954945_9578.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v169/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1954954_2050.jpg

[zj95maxx]

Good to see that thing getting beat on properly. Kiss those back winders good bye!

ALMOST!
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v173/145/6/657390617/n657390617_1957112_5402.jpg

and

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/wheelin001.jpg
The Next Phase begins!

1998 GMC 14 bolt. 65" wide

$49.74 from the bone yard

[zj95maxx]

this axle wont be in my jeep for a LONG time

tube came in
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j001.jpg

started xterras B pillar
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j002.jpg



here comes the problem. I made a STUPID mistake and threw the tube in the bender wrong, making the bend short on one side on the top..making it narrower than I wanted..now PAT says he doesnt care and will run it..but I dunno..what do you guys think, would this make the cage extremely weaker? It will still save his ass from crushing, but..i duno.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j003.jpg



on a lighter note..both 4 point harnesses came in
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j004.jpg

[zj95maxx]

xterras B pillar has been re done, fits/looks great



got more cage work done..no pics though


little package came in, should help speed up the airing down process
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j.jpg

[zj95maxx]

Started and finished 1 of 2 rear fenders for the xterra. Had to plate the sides of his rear Shrockworks Bumper to attach the tube.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j005.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j006.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j013.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j008.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j009.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j012.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j011.jpg

comp cut
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j014.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j016.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j015.jpg

[zj95maxx]

Redoing my B pillar so that the legs are less angled, thus making the feet in better spots for mounting the plates underneath, right now, it sucks.

worked on the xterra cage

new B pillar

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j017.jpg

welding action
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j018.jpg

Rear Halo
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j020.jpg

Start of C pillar
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j021.jpg

started raining..thats all for today

[zj95maxx]

and capable as fawk

that rig is sickkkk



anywho.. http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j-1.jpg
25 inchers

[Seth]

NOTE TO ALL RICHMOND JEEPERS:
Your helpful moderator has decided to remove what I consider to be useful information.

I think Maxx has learned a lot of skills and I think he would be much better off long term by starting a project that is sustainable and will net the performance and longevity he's looking for. Obviously my opinion is an opinion based on my experiences, which are clearly different than others here. I want to see Maxx get into a project that suits his skill level, his desires and isn't a lost cause.

[Big Ron]

hmmm......
Helpful info is helpful info...I say leave it up

[Seth]

Its already gone. I think discourse is useful. I think an exchange of ideas is useful. I've made lots of choices, only to change them once I tell someone what I planned. I really think that Maxx is learning the skills to do something bigger.

[Ace4wd]

I.... DID IT, I wanted to put it back on the path it started... I also think an exchange of ideas is useful. but it was WAY out of line with some of it, So I started to hack it back a bit. Rather than remove all of it. kind of like a fresh start.

Thanks
Mike
Your helpful moderator

[o0Jash0o]

whats the name of the seats you have, i have an identical one in blue i need the mounting bracket for an not sure what to look up.

was hopin to put it in the drivers side of the tj but am also wundering how well it will fit.

[zj95maxx]

Corbeau Baja




I just noticed all the pages got deleted...wowwww

Feel free to start the convo over:lmao:
honestly..I like doing phases on my jeep instead of jumping to a buggy. But seriously, when this thing flips and the body is useless, it WILL be chopped up.call me crazy or whatever..but yeah.:rock:

[zj95maxx]

Out with the old
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/cage1.jpg

and in with the new
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j024.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j022.jpg

How angled it is, perfect!
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j023.jpg

[zj95maxx]

Yesterday was miserable but we still worked on cages..only pic I got from that day though.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03899.jpg
stupidfucking snow

got a good amount done today
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03901.jpg

Rear halo on mine
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03902.jpg

not AMAZINGLY happy with the A pillar, but it works
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03903.jpg

C pillar, there is like no room to mount plates underneath, so what I did, if you remember I have 1/4 plate where my coils are for my coil traps, perfect spot for tube.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03905.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03908.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03906.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03907.jpg

Going to try n get alot done tomorrow as well.

[BacklashXJ]

needs mo cowbell.

(triangles)

[zj95maxx]

needs mo cowbell.

(triangles)

haha

havnt even STARTED on trianglulation yet

[zj95maxx]

worked more on the cages today

Bending up A pillar
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03909.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03912.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03911.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03914.jpg


finished my C pillar bar
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03910.jpg


need shorter bolts..
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03913.jpg


still only half done with both cages, time to start on triangulations, just glad we are done with the pillars. Dash bars are coming as well.

[zj95maxx]

Did two dash bars today while I had an hour and a half to kill
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03915.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03916.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03920.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03921.jpg

Wasn't that hard to get both bars straight, I was surprised.

[zachjk]

You should look into pulling that dash and re-doing the dash bars and a pillar bars. Push the foward. It will make it a lot safer on the road. Unless you plan on wearing a helmet when you drive, your head will be nice and fucked if you wreck. If you look at race cars those bars are a lot closer to the firewall. There's a reason for it.

[zj95maxx]

It's honostly fine, but thanks.

[jbailey]

Petersons did an article some time back that stated if you run a full cage you should wear a helmet of some sort, at least when wheeling b/c now the cage can crack your melon even if you do not go over. They also stated that street driven vehicles shouldn't have cages b/c your not likely to wear a helmet while driving to work. Although it could be a good idea:agree:

Everything we do is about the compromises.

I do agree that the dash bar and A pillar are not in the best location but I also understand that you may have limits that you need to work with also.

[zj95maxx]

Might add padding to just the A pillars so I dont donk my head getting in and out

like so.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/Tommy_M/cage6.jpg?t=1165201860

[STUK SUX]

ok I edited this post back to here.....lets not get out of hand again...Maxx I deleted back to here because i didn't want to have to close your whole update thread because you do have a lot of good stuff on here.....all criticism is for information purposes of the givers experiences and such..to be taken as you wish but try to take it well...without jackass remarks. simply defend your choices on your basis for making them. we all have been hit with criticism at one point or the other. Just remember, some things people tell you are from first hand experiences and are just trying to keep you from making mistakes they have made or have seen others make resulting in a not so good outcome.....Lets all try to be adults....

Thanks all for your cooperation:)

[tjbliley]

Maxx you may want to look into a custom dash which would enable you to tie the front hoop into the front crossmember by running some bars through the firewall. This would allow you to run the a pillar right up against the unibody lines and push the dash bars further away from you. Also remember that if you block your line of site with the bars a stupid trooper or inspector is prob. gonna gig you.

[MACK]

ok I edited this post back to here.....lets not get out of hand again...Maxx I deleted back to here because i didn't want to have to close your whole update thread because you do have a lot of good stuff on here.....all criticism is for information purposes of the givers experiences and such..to be taken as you wish but try to take it well...without jackass remarks. simply defend your choices on your basis for making them. we all have been hit with criticism at one point or the other. Just remember, some things people tell you are from first hand experiences and are just trying to keep you from making mistakes they have made or have seen others make resulting in a not so good outcome.....Lets all try to be adults....

Thanks all for your cooperation:)Damn, what did I miss?

[Seth]

Maxx.
The windshied V will get you a ticket. Put it on a hinge so it can be folded up.

[MACK]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03913.jpg

Are you going to tie this in to something structural?

[MACK]

And aren't you supposed to put a slug through plated connection so that the bolts cant shear off?

[Benz0]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03913.jpg

Are you going to tie this in to something structural?

Dude..it aint like he has 24/7 to work on that shizzle :p


Shoulda Exo'd that bitch :flipoff:

Looks great mang :cheer:

[BacklashXJ]

Shoulda Exo'd that bitch :flipoff:

Looks great mang :cheer:


he will eventually. :p

maxx, seth is right about the V.

Edit: post 225 isn't maxx's ZJ... my b.

[Seth]

Exos are for looks. Internal cages are for safety. Maxx is going about this the right way and will net a far safer structure in case of catastrophe.

[STUK SUX]

Damn, what did I miss?

shit got way outa hand last night....hopefully all is well now.

[rdnkfirefighter]

shit got way outa hand last night....hopefully all is well now.

Party?

[MACK]

shit got way outa hand last night....hopefully all is well now.

Damn admins...take all the fun away!:flipoff:

[STUK SUX]

i'll leave the fun, i'll delete the unneccary bs that was going on last night. there were a few post in the group that should have stayed so if they would like to put them back up feel free....minus the drama. i just started at the starting point of all of it and wiped from there down clean.

[zj95maxx]

plates will have tube running from them to the sliders and or clayton subframe..keep in mind this cage is NOT done yet. still have MANY hours to finish it.

This ZJ will not be my DD forever...so..meh

[Seth]

My CJ has NEVER been a daily driver. But I still maintain its streetability for those days when I need it to be a car. The difference in performance between it and my TJ is negligible off road... and the TJ was definitely not street legal.

To get to the next level of performance requires a SERIOUS commitment to weight reduction, strength and balance. The reason people stopped competing in Jeep based buggies was that they were a tough platform to get ENOUGH performance out of. There are tons of obstacles that can be run with a stock modified rig if you have a cavalier enough attitude regarding body damage.

Its not til you make a BIG step that you will net some serious performance gains.

[MACK]

plates will have tube running from them to the sliders and or clayton subframe....so..meh

I wasn't criticizing. I just didn't know if you had thought about it

[o0Jash0o]

My CJ has NEVER been a daily driver. But I still maintain its streetability for those days when I need it to be a car. The difference in performance between it and my TJ is negligible off road... and the TJ was definitely not street legal.

To get to the next level of performance requires a SERIOUS commitment to weight reduction, strength and balance. The reason people stopped competing in Jeep based buggies was that they were a tough platform to get ENOUGH performance out of. There are tons of obstacles that can be run with a stock modified rig if you have a cavalier enough attitude regarding body damage.

Its not til you make a BIG step that you will net some serious performance gains.

what would be the ideal platform nowadayz

[zj95maxx]

Here you go..Realized I was NEVER going to finish my passy tube door, so I chopped it up (1 1/2 DOM) for random things such as tube running from plates to "frame" and sliders..
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/DSC03922.jpg

I hate overhead welding..
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j036.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j037.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j038.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j039.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j040.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j041.jpg

Shouldnt get banged up too bad..only had time to do A and B pillars on the driver side..will get to the other side later.(and the D pillar when I make it)

[Ace4wd]

Little to no heat to any thing other than the tube. over head SUCKS
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j036.jpg
Not worth a shit at that angle.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa45/zj95maxx/j040.jpg

Please post a pic of the top side of them bolts.


MJ

[zj95maxx]

I dont think the tube is going to rip off..and at that angle its still better than nothing and its stronger than welding tube to the thin "frame" that I do have(clayton subframe doesnt go up that far), but again, nothing from positive comments.:)

you also forget that the tube is 1 1/2 dom .120 wall and thats 1/4 shit im welding to. Of course more heat is going to be going to the thinner material.

and as for the top..why? it looks like the bottom..a plate..with bolts..and tube...

[soacj]

what would be the ideal platform nowadayz

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/soacj/i6.jpg

:rock:

Jay

[BacklashXJ]

Come on Mike, we don't need to see your failed attempt at being a nude model... I mean, that's just wrong.

x3948570345 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :flipoff:

[Ace4wd]

I'll make up for it tonight.:cheers:

[WildTurkeycj8]

but again, nothing from positive comments.:)...

Dude - you're really putting a lot of time and effort into your rig and it looks like you are doing a very good job with it! I would bet that you are way ahead of where most of us were at your age (and where lots of us are now!) .

It is important to be able to separate the good constructive criticism from the chatter, and to listen to it. It could save you money in the long run, and help you build a better-performing and safer rig.

-Mike (not the one posting nude pics of overweight people :slap: )

[o0Jash0o]

:rock:

Jay

what is that based off of, or is it just from scratch.

MAXX case oh beer maybe 2...or three to make me a tube prerunner style front bumper with a stinger.

pleeez